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Ilan Ramon  
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(1 käyttäjää)  Lisäasetukset 20 syys 2008, 06:52
Uutisryhmät: alt.religion.islam, alt.religion.islam.arabic, alt.terrorism.world-trade-center, aus.religion.islam
Lähettäjä: Ilan Ramon <lost_jew_in_sp...@yahoo.com>
Päivämäärä: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 20:52:55 -0700 (PDT)
Paikallinen: La 20 syys 2008 06:52
Aihe: Al Qaeda does not exist and never has
Al Qaeda does not exist and never has

The basic truth is that Al Qaeda does not exist and never has. Al
Qaeda is a manufactured enemy who was created by the Bush
Administration in order to have an excuse to wage a war for the
control of the world’s oil resources.

Did an American even hear the words “Al Qaeda” before 9-11? Or were we
told that its alleged leader Osama Bin Laden has family who themselves
have personal business relationships with George W. Bush’s family and
that both families had financially profited considerably from the “War
on Terror”?

If “Al Qaeda” was such an organized group terrorists as we are being
told then why weren’t we the people notified of this evil threat when
the US Cole was bombed a few months before 9-11? “Al Qaeda” is nothing
more than a broad euphemistic umbrella classification used to group
any Middle Eastern fighter under the Sun as an enemy. The most
diabolical aspect of this public relations stunt is that it enables
the current Administration to label any group it feels necessary to
attack to appear to be related to an unprovable organized enemy while
at the same time actually increasing its approval ratings by
exploiting the basic primal fears of the American public. Furthermore
when one realizes the questionable motivations that this
Administration has used previously to attack an enemy, as what is now
surfacing about the Iraq War, one begins to get the strange feeling
that this Orwellian double-speak is nothing more than a smoke and
mirror illusion whose true intentions would of made Goebbels himself
jealous.

Think about it: How could a bunch of technologically unadvanced group
of people from third-world nations such as “Al Qaeda” ever have any
real central organization structure? If they had any real organization
they would have most certainly attacked us again after September
eleventh. Where are all the terrorist cells in this country? Contrary
to what has been implicitly presented in the media there HAS NEVER
been a single domestic terror cell caught since Bush has been in
office! The majority of suspects that have been arrested and detained
in the immediate aftermath of 9-11 with the exception of a handful
have not been charged with crimes in anyway associated with terrorism.
All of their crimes are minor and for the most part are ! related to
immigration violations of some sort. There is some ambiguity in all of
this though because to this day the Ashcroft Justice Department has
been less than forthcoming with the specifics of these arrests. Why
would this be the case if the justifications for these arrests were
really legitimate? We have been bombarded by the media with every
indignity from the duck-tape chronicles to the crop dusting threat.
You would think that with all this seeming sensitivity by our
government about informing the general populace about possible terror
threats, especially when some of their sources came from “unnamed and
confidential secondary sources”, that the Ashcroft Justice Department
would have gone out of it’s way to mention to the public any terrorist
connections that the people detained after 9-11 had and would of sworn
by it on a stack of Bibles.

To date the only really suspicious activity of people detained after
9-11 were a group of Israelis who were caught in Jersey City, New
Jersey filming themselves in the foreground of the burning World Trade
Center with “looks of jubilation on their faces”. It was later
confirmed that two of the gentlemen detained had known Mossad ties.
While they were detained it is of no matter now as they were
subsequently released from jail a few! weeks later and were allowed to
go back to Israel with no questions asked by the direct authorization
of the Justice Department. I guess they were just dropping off a box
of cigars to Governor McGreevy?

What is even more illuminating about all of this is that to this day
nobody has taken responsibility for the attacks of 9-11, including “Al
Qaeda”. The only thing to link these attacks to anyone is the video
tape of Osama Bin Laden that was conveniently found in a cave in
Afghanistan that had him talking about the physical structure of the
World Trade Center and the plane strike. The audio quality of this
tape is so poor that any objective Arab-speaking analyst who was asked
to give their opinion was unable to do so! as they claimed that just
about all the words on it were inaudible. I believe an objective
investigation into this original tape’s authenticity could verify if
this admission is in fact genuine and could shed some light on the
truth of the existence of “Al Qaeda”. But even if this tape is genuine
what would this really prove? As I have already mentioned it is common
knowledge that Osama Bin Laden is connected to George W. Bush’s family
by a minimum of two degrees of separation. So in the grand scheme of
things what does this really matter? That the Cobra Commander said he
did it?

In summary, “Al Qaeda” does not exist nor has it ever. If it really
existed to anywhere near the extent that we have been told then there
would have been an attack on our homeland. Of course this proof of a
negative is used by the Administration to justify themselves to the
American public that they are doing their jobs, but when one realizes
that “Al Qaeda” is really nothing more than an artificially
manufactured enemy then what job are they really doing other than
capitalizing off of people’s fears? What other issue does the present
Administration have to offer the average working-class citizen other
than security? And if security is really only a Red Herring platform
issue, then of what use are they to begin with? In addition, ! if
there were any degree of truth in the strength of “Al Qaeda” or even
of their very existence then there would have been a much larger
resistance in Afghanistan and especially in Iraq. If an organization
structure existed within “Al Qaeda” then you would have seen the Iraqi
resistance be a much more conventional ! one. They would have had the
communication capability and weapons arsenal to mount a more
traditional counter-offensive against our troops and they would have
been successful doing it because our force’s numbers are so minimal.
This would have been a prime opportunity to defeat “the great satan”
in front of the entire world. Their motivation to do so would have
been so strong that in order for them to of not of done this one must
make the quantum leap and conclude that “Al Qaeda” is much to do about
nothing and always has been. The emperor is naked and running through
the courtyard with a great big barrel of oil.

Joseph John Hrevnack

http://english.pravda.ru/mailbox/22/101/397/13821_AlQaeda.html


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 Lisäasetukset 20 syys 2008, 09:37
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moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks

                                _
                              /'_/)
                            ,/_  /
                           /    /
                     /'_'/'   '/'__'7,
                  /'/    /    /    /" /_\
                 ('(    ' /'   ')
                  \      /
                   '\'              _.7'
                     \             (
                       \            \

Up your ass mohammad  - Elif air ab tizak!!!

i...@muslimmatch.com  or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politicsIranian@googlegroups.com
jam...@islamsa.org.za
ds...@mweb.co.za
jamia...@lantic.co.za
sanha-...@sanha.org.za
sanha...@sanha.org.za
sanha-...@sanha.org.za
helpl...@sanha.org.za
islamwayoflife@googlegroups.com
furtivo4...@gmail.com

** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **


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 Lisäasetukset 20 syys 2008, 17:08
Uutisryhmät: alt.religion.islam, alt.religion.islam.arabic, aus.religion.islam
Lähettäjä: "LORD RAMA" <hindu_human_fi...@yahoo.com>
Päivämäärä: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 08:08:03 -0600
Paikallinen: La 20 syys 2008 17:08
Aihe: Al Qaeda does not exist and never has
Al Qaeda does not exist and never has

The basic truth is that Al Qaeda does not exist and never has. Al Qaeda is a
manufactured enemy who was created by the Bush Administration in order to
have an excuse to wage a war for the control of the world's oil resources.

Did an American even hear the words "Al Qaeda" before 9-11? Or were we told
that its alleged leader Osama Bin Laden has family who themselves have
personal business relationships with George W. Bush's family and that both
families had financially profited considerably from the "War on Terror"?

If "Al Qaeda" was such an organized group terrorists as we are being told
then why weren't we the people notified of this evil threat when the US Cole
was bombed a few months before 9-11? "Al Qaeda" is nothing more than a broad
euphemistic umbrella classification used to group any Middle Eastern fighter
under the Sun as an enemy. The most diabolical aspect of this public
relations stunt is that it enables the current Administration to label any
group it feels necessary to attack to appear to be related to an unprovable
organized enemy while at the same time actually increasing its approval
ratings by exploiting the basic primal fears of the American public.
Furthermore when one realizes the questionable motivations that this
Administration has used previously to attack an enemy, as what is now
surfacing about the Iraq War, one begins to get the strange feeling that
this Orwellian double-speak is nothing more than a smoke and mirror illusion
whose true intentions would of made Goebbels himself jealous.

Think about it: How could a bunch of technologically unadvanced group of
people from third-world nations such as "Al Qaeda" ever have any real
central organization structure? If they had any real organization they would
have most certainly attacked us again after September eleventh. Where are
all the terrorist cells in this country? Contrary to what has been
implicitly presented in the media there HAS NEVER been a single domestic
terror cell caught since Bush has been in office! The majority of suspects
that have been arrested and detained in the immediate aftermath of 9-11 with
the exception of a handful have not been charged with crimes in anyway
associated with terrorism. All of their crimes are minor and for the most
part are ! related to immigration violations of some sort. There is some
ambiguity in all of this though because to this day the Ashcroft Justice
Department has been less than forthcoming with the specifics of these
arrests. Why would this be the case if the justifications for these arrests
were really legitimate? We have been bombarded by the media with every
indignity from the duck-tape chronicles to the crop dusting threat. You
would think that with all this seeming sensitivity by our government about
informing the general populace about possible terror threats, especially
when some of their sources came from "unnamed and confidential secondary
sources", that the Ashcroft Justice Department would have gone out of it's
way to mention to the public any terrorist connections that the people
detained after 9-11 had and would of sworn by it on a stack of Bibles.

To date the only really suspicious activity of people detained after 9-11
were a group of Israelis who were caught in Jersey City, New Jersey filming
themselves in the foreground of the burning World Trade Center with "looks
of jubilation on their faces". It was later confirmed that two of the
gentlemen detained had known Mossad ties. While they were detained it is of
no matter now as they were subsequently released from jail a few! weeks
later and were allowed to go back to Israel with no questions asked by the
direct authorization of the Justice Department. I guess they were just
dropping off a box of cigars to Governor McGreevy?

What is even more illuminating about all of this is that to this day nobody
has taken responsibility for the attacks of 9-11, including "Al Qaeda". The
only thing to link these attacks to anyone is the video tape of Osama Bin
Laden that was conveniently found in a cave in Afghanistan that had him
talking about the physical structure of the World Trade Center and the plane
strike. The audio quality of this tape is so poor that any objective
Arab-speaking analyst who was asked to give their opinion was unable to do
so! as they claimed that just about all the words on it were inaudible. I
believe an objective investigation into this original tape's authenticity
could verify if this admission is in fact genuine and could shed some light
on the truth of the existence of "Al Qaeda". But even if this tape is
genuine what would this really prove? As I have already mentioned it is
common knowledge that Osama Bin Laden is connected to George W. Bush's
family by a minimum of two degrees of separation. So in the grand scheme of
things what does this really matter? That the Cobra Commander said he did
it?

In summary, "Al Qaeda" does not exist nor has it ever. If it really existed
to anywhere near the extent that we have been told then there would have
been an attack on our homeland. Of course this proof of a negative is used
by the Administration to justify themselves to the American public that they
are doing their jobs, but when one realizes that "Al Qaeda" is really
nothing more than an artificially manufactured enemy then what job are they
really doing other than capitalizing off of people's fears? What other issue
does the present Administration have to offer the average working-class
citizen other than security? And if security is really only a Red Herring
platform issue, then of what use are they to begin with? In addition, ! if
there were any degree of truth in the strength of "Al Qaeda" or even of
their very existence then there would have been a much larger resistance in
Afghanistan and especially in Iraq. If an organization structure existed
within "Al Qaeda" then you would have seen the Iraqi resistance be a much
more conventional ! one. They would have had the communication capability
and weapons arsenal to mount a more traditional counter-offensive against
our troops and they would have been successful doing it because our force's
numbers are so minimal. This would have been a prime opportunity to defeat
"the great satan" in front of the entire world. Their motivation to do so
would have been so strong that in order for them to of not of done this one
must make the quantum leap and conclude that "Al Qaeda" is much to do about
nothing and always has been. The emperor is naked and running through the
courtyard with a great big barrel of oil.

Joseph John Hrevnack

http://english.pravda.ru/mailbox/22/101/397/13821_AlQaeda.html


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 Lisäasetukset 20 syys 2008, 15:08
Uutisryhmät: alt.religion.islam, alt.religion.islam.arabic, alt.terrorism.world-trade-center, aus.religion.islam
Lähettäjä: Ilan Ramon <lost_jew_in_sp...@yahoo.com>
Päivämäärä: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 05:08:24 -0700 (PDT)
Paikallinen: La 20 syys 2008 15:08
Aihe: Al Qaeda does not exist and never has
Al Qaeda does not exist and never has

The basic truth is that Al Qaeda does not exist and never has. Al
Qaeda is a manufactured enemy who was created by the Bush
Administration in order to have an excuse to wage a war for the
control of the world’s oil resources.

Did an American even hear the words “Al Qaeda” before 9-11? Or were we
told that its alleged leader Osama Bin Laden has family who themselves
have personal business relationships with George W. Bush’s family and
that both families had financially profited considerably from the “War
on Terror”?

If “Al Qaeda” was such an organized group terrorists as we are being
told then why weren’t we the people notified of this evil threat when
the US Cole was bombed a few months before 9-11? “Al Qaeda” is nothing
more than a broad euphemistic umbrella classification used to group
any Middle Eastern fighter under the Sun as an enemy. The most
diabolical aspect of this public relations stunt is that it enables
the current Administration to label any group it feels necessary to
attack to appear to be related to an unprovable organized enemy while
at the same time actually increasing its approval ratings by
exploiting the basic primal fears of the American public. Furthermore
when one realizes the questionable motivations that this
Administration has used previously to attack an enemy, as what is now
surfacing about the Iraq War, one begins to get the strange feeling
that this Orwellian double-speak is nothing more than a smoke and
mirror illusion whose true intentions would of made Goebbels himself
jealous.

Think about it: How could a bunch of technologically unadvanced group
of people from third-world nations such as “Al Qaeda” ever have any
real central organization structure? If they had any real organization
they would have most certainly attacked us again after September
eleventh. Where are all the terrorist cells in this country? Contrary
to what has been implicitly presented in the media there HAS NEVER
been a single domestic terror cell caught since Bush has been in
office! The majority of suspects that have been arrested and detained
in the immediate aftermath of 9-11 with the exception of a handful
have not been charged with crimes in anyway associated with terrorism.
All of their crimes are minor and for the most part are ! related to
immigration violations of some sort. There is some ambiguity in all of
this though because to this day the Ashcroft Justice Department has
been less than forthcoming with the specifics of these arrests. Why
would this be the case if the justifications for these arrests were
really legitimate? We have been bombarded by the media with every
indignity from the duck-tape chronicles to the crop dusting threat.
You would think that with all this seeming sensitivity by our
government about informing the general populace about possible terror
threats, especially when some of their sources came from “unnamed and
confidential secondary sources”, that the Ashcroft Justice Department
would have gone out of it’s way to mention to the public any terrorist
connections that the people detained after 9-11 had and would of sworn
by it on a stack of Bibles.

To date the only really suspicious activity of people detained after
9-11 were a group of Israelis who were caught in Jersey City, New
Jersey filming themselves in the foreground of the burning World Trade
Center with “looks of jubilation on their faces”. It was later
confirmed that two of the gentlemen detained had known Mossad ties.
While they were detained it is of no matter now as they were
subsequently released from jail a few! weeks later and were allowed to
go back to Israel with no questions asked by the direct authorization
of the Justice Department. I guess they were just dropping off a box
of cigars to Governor McGreevy?

What is even more illuminating about all of this is that to this day
nobody has taken responsibility for the attacks of 9-11, including “Al
Qaeda”. The only thing to link these attacks to anyone is the video
tape of Osama Bin Laden that was conveniently found in a cave in
Afghanistan that had him talking about the physical structure of the
World Trade Center and the plane strike. The audio quality of this
tape is so poor that any objective Arab-speaking analyst who was asked
to give their opinion was unable to do so! as they claimed that just
about all the words on it were inaudible. I believe an objective
investigation into this original tape’s authenticity could verify if
this admission is in fact genuine and could shed some light on the
truth of the existence of “Al Qaeda”. But even if this tape is genuine
what would this really prove? As I have already mentioned it is common
knowledge that Osama Bin Laden is connected to George W. Bush’s family
by a minimum of two degrees of separation. So in the grand scheme of
things what does this really matter? That the Cobra Commander said he
did it?

In summary, “Al Qaeda” does not exist nor has it ever. If it really
existed to anywhere near the extent that we have been told then there
would have been an attack on our homeland. Of course this proof of a
negative is used by the Administration to justify themselves to the
American public that they are doing their jobs, but when one realizes
that “Al Qaeda” is really nothing more than an artificially
manufactured enemy then what job are they really doing other than
capitalizing off of people’s fears? What other issue does the present
Administration have to offer the average working-class citizen other
than security? And if security is really only a Red Herring platform
issue, then of what use are they to begin with? In addition, ! if
there were any degree of truth in the strength of “Al Qaeda” or even
of their very existence then there would have been a much larger
resistance in Afghanistan and especially in Iraq. If an organization
structure existed within “Al Qaeda” then you would have seen the Iraqi
resistance be a much more conventional ! one. They would have had the
communication capability and weapons arsenal to mount a more
traditional counter-offensive against our troops and they would have
been successful doing it because our force’s numbers are so minimal.
This would have been a prime opportunity to defeat “the great satan”
in front of the entire world. Their motivation to do so would have
been so strong that in order for them to of not of done this one must
make the quantum leap and conclude that “Al Qaeda” is much to do about
nothing and always has been. The emperor is naked and running through
the courtyard with a great big barrel of oil.

Joseph John Hrevnack

http://english.pravda.ru/mailbox/22/101/397/13821_AlQaeda.html


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 Lisäasetukset 20 syys 2008, 15:23
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moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks

                                _
                              /'_/)
                            ,/_  /
                           /    /
                     /'_'/'   '/'__'7,
                  /'/    /    /    /" /_\
                 ('(    ' /'   ')
                  \      /
                   '\'              _.7'
                     \             (
                       \            \

Up your ass mohammad  - Elif air ab tizak!!!

i...@muslimmatch.com  or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politicsIranian@googlegroups.com
jam...@islamsa.org.za
ds...@mweb.co.za
jamia...@lantic.co.za
sanha-...@sanha.org.za
sanha...@sanha.org.za
sanha-...@sanha.org.za
helpl...@sanha.org.za
islamwayoflife@googlegroups.com
furtivo4...@gmail.com

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hindu_human_fi...@yahoo.com wrote:
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moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks

                                _
                              /'_/)
                            ,/_  /
                           /    /
                     /'_'/'   '/'__'7,
                  /'/    /    /    /" /_\
                 ('(    ' /'   ')
                  \      /
                   '\'              _.7'
                     \             (
                       \            \

Up your ass mohammad  - Elif air ab tizak!!!

i...@muslimmatch.com  or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politicsIranian@googlegroups.com
jam...@islamsa.org.za
ds...@mweb.co.za
jamia...@lantic.co.za
sanha-...@sanha.org.za
sanha...@sanha.org.za
sanha-...@sanha.org.za
helpl...@sanha.org.za
islamwayoflife@googlegroups.com
furtivo4...@gmail.com

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