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Wizard on Astral Plane

janis_papanag...@hotmail.com (Janis Papanagnou) — Sat, 21 marras 2009 04:12:01 UT

Thought I could leave the Wizard behind on Water level; he had
just appeared as I stood adjacent to the portal...
@ <-- the Wizard
@ <-- me
^
But, despite being one square away from the portal, he followed
me to the Astral Plane. (Thought he'd have no admittance ;-)
The only other thing to mention is that I noticed in the final

Re: Unnethack 351 - impressions - spoilers

yaroguel...@googlemail.com (Simon) — Fri, 20 marras 2009 13:46:16 UT

Early wishes are not so unbalancing in Un as you can't wish for
magical items (although oilskin is very useful!). Un rewards careful
play and squeezing every possible advantage out of every item you
find. In Vanilla you can play carelessly, get lucky and go on to
ascend - this doesn't work in Un. Un forces you to accept that

Re: [UnNethack] Bug?

7ab...@lebarducoin.fr (7aboir) — Fri, 20 marras 2009 10:41:16 UT

7aboir <7ab...@lebarducoin.fr> écrivait
Forget me. It's official bug. I know I should have checked before.

Re: Unnethack 351 - impressions - spoilers

bh...@bigfoot.com (Patric Mueller) — Fri, 20 marras 2009 10:38:17 UT

Less randomness? In what regard?
I hope the early and middle game is not harder for the new or casual
player.
My intention was to stop the exploiting player from taking shortcuts,
not to punish unspoiled players.
I'd say it makes you a better wishless player.
Why? Because you get less wishes?
It seems you just were unlucky. I didn't change anything in item

[UnNethack] Bug?

7ab...@lebarducoin.fr (7aboir) — Fri, 20 marras 2009 10:34:36 UT

I'm giving a try to UnNethack due to recent post (and currently boring
extinctionism game on vanila / NAO), on un.nethack.nu (Unix UnNetHack
Version 3.5.2 - last build Tue Oct 13 17:10:50 2009.)
Applying a magic whitle it happens that my cat get teleported over a bear
trap. --> The housecat suddenly falls asleep!

Re: {meta} in re Strategy Wiki's NetHack entry

grahn+n...@snipabacken.se (Jorgen Grahn) — Thu, 19 marras 2009 21:58:19 UT

Good that I wasn't obliged, because I didn't.
My newsreader inserts that text you quote above. I chose to retain it
because it's generally a good idea, and because I know nothing about
your habits or agendas.
It *should* be, but malicious crossposting still works -- it has
recently damaged some nice, low-traffic groups I care about.

Re: Enhance a wizard's experience level in the late game?

dfrey...@yahoo.com (Doug Freyburger) — Thu, 19 marras 2009 21:04:45 UT

Failure rate falls and damage done increases. Wizard charaters will
usually want to go all the way to XP=30 because of this.
Specific attack spells change at skilled - Fireball cone of cold go from
a ray to a blast centered on a location. Because of the wide zone of
damage you may want to enhance to skilled. Because you have to be able

Re: Enhance a wizard's experience level in the late game?

janis_papanag...@hotmail.com (Janis Papanagnou) — Thu, 19 marras 2009 19:52:53 UT

That's indeed a significant difference, it makes levelling up probably
the more interesting option. My problem is how to obtain XL:30, the best
to get now with my potions might be XL:25 or so.
Hmm.., quantity of spells seems not too important in my game ATM; I'm
not feeling to miss anything important. Well, cure sickness might be

Unnethack 351 - impressions - spoilers

yaroguel...@googlemail.com (Simon) — Thu, 19 marras 2009 17:23:55 UT

Ok, I finally ascended in Unnethack 351 so I thought I'd record my
observations here. There are spoilers below.
In general, I think the game achieves what it sets out to achieve -
less randomness at the start of the game and more randomness in the
middle and endgame. In my opinion this makes it quite a lot harder

Re: Enhance a wizard's experience level in the late game?

james.ka...@gmail.com (James) — Thu, 19 marras 2009 09:10:54 UT

On Nov 19, 2:48 am, Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanag...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Very definitely. There's a multiplier of XL/2 + 1 on the basic
damage (between 1 and 6).
On the other hand, I'd find some wraiths, and keep the potions
for the ascension anyway.
Damage, I don't think so, but being skilled or better does

Re: No Excalibur?

kulhane...@wright.edu (Ray Kulhanek) — Thu, 19 marras 2009 09:07:53 UT

You might want to check that Excalibur isn't one of the artifacts in
your stash before you excavate the entire dungeon. If you have that
many in there, it's entirely possible you just didn't notice the name.

Re: Enhance a wizard's experience level in the late game?

keri...@gmail.com (Kerio) — Thu, 19 marras 2009 06:04:27 UT

On 19 Nov, 03:48, Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanag...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Some spells have particular effects when going from Basic to Skilled,
but yeah, magic missile always deals the same amount of damage,
regardless of skill (iirc); magic missile's damage is (xl/2+1)d6, so
with xl18 you deal 35dmg on average, with xl30 you'll deal 56dmg on

Enhance a wizard's experience level in the late game?

janis_papanag...@hotmail.com (Janis Papanagnou) — Thu, 19 marras 2009 02:48:23 UT

I seem to recall that it was said that effectiveness of attack spells
like magic missile would increase if the characters experience level
increases. Incidentally my XL:18 (or so) wizard has half a dozen spare
potions of gain level. Saving them for alchemy seems not necessary any
more (he has already ~300 HPs), so there's the two apparent options to

Re: Polymorphed shopkeeper?

james.ka...@gmail.com (James) — Tue, 17 marras 2009 09:21:57 UT

It's been polymorphed. I'm not sure about the appeasement and
stuff, but it won't be any harder to kill than any other monster
of the same type (and with the same armor and arms, if it knows
how to use them---shopkeepers generally come equipped with an
attack wand or so).
Shopkeepers are a lot easier to kill than priests, at least in

Re: Polymorphed shopkeeper?

marknos...@gmail.com (Shmulie) — Tue, 17 marras 2009 00:51:40 UT

Actually, not true. Usually, most shopkeepers first use their wands of
all things. Thus, if you a wizard and therefore have a cloak of magic
resistance and a wand of something powerful (like fire) you can take
it out with almost no damage. But that's a special case.