Is Islam Compatible With Democracy and Human Rights?
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Is Islam Compatible With Democracy and Human Rights?
"Islam has never favoured democratic tendencies..." - Hurgronje [277]
"The Democratic system that is predominant in the world is not a suitable system for the peoples of our region... The system of free elections is not suitable to our country" - King Fahd of Saudi Arabia
At least King Fahd has had the honesty to admit the incompatibility of Islam and Democracy. Meanwhile Western Islamic apologists and modernising Muslims continue to look for democratic principles in Islam and Islamic history.
[A] Human Rights and Islam
Let us look at the Universal Declaration of Human Rights of 1948 and compare it to Islamic law and doctrine.
Article 1 " All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood".
Article 2 " Everyone is entitled to all rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status".
Article 3 "Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person"
Article 4 No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms"
Comments: (1) Women are inferior under Islamic law; their testimony in a court of law is worth half that of a man; their movement is strictly restricted, they cannot marry a non-Muslim
(2) Non -- Muslims living in Muslim countries have inferior status under Islamic law, they may not testify against a Muslim. In Saudi Arabia, following a tradition of Muhammed who said " Two religions cannot exist in the country of Arabia ", non _ Muslims are forbidden to practice their religion, build churches, possess Bibles etc.
(3) Non-believers -- atheists (surely the most neglected minority in history) -- in Muslim countries do not have "the right to life". They are to be killed. Muslim doctors of law generally divide sins into great sins and little sins. Of the seventeen great sins, unbelief is the greatest, more heinous than murder, theft, adultery etc..
(4) Slavery is recognised in the Koran. Muslims are allowed to cohabit with any of their female slaves (Sura iv.3); they are allowed to take possession of married women if they are slaves (Sura iv.28); the helpless position of the slave as regard his master illustrates the helpless position of the false gods of Arabia in the presence of their Creator (Sura xvi.77).
Article 5 No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.
Comments (1) We have seen what punishments are in store for the transgressers of the Holy Law: amputations, crucifixion, stoning to death, floggings. I suppose a Muslim could argue that these were not unusual for a Muslim country, but what of their inhumanity? Again a Muslim could contend that they are of divine origin and must not be judged by human criteria. By human standards, they ARE inhuman.
Article 6 Everyone has the right to recognition everywhere as a person before the law.
The whole notion of a person who can make choice, and can be held morally responsible is lacking in Islam; as is the entire notion of human rights.
Articles 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 deal with the rights of an accused person to a fair trial.
Comments (1) As Schacht has shown under the Sharia considerations of good faith, fairness, justice, truth, and so on play only a subordinate role. The idea of criminal guilt is lacking.
(2) Revenge for a killing is officially sanctioned, though a money recompense is also possible.
(3) The legal procedure, under Islam, can hardly be called impartial or fair, for in the matter of witnesses all sorts of injustices emerge. A non _Muslim may not testify against a Muslim. For example, a Muslim may rob a non _Muslim in his home with impunity if there are no witnesses except the non_ Muslim himself. The evidence of Muslim women is admitted only very exceptionally and then only from twice the number required of men.
Article 16 deals with the rights of marriage of men and women
Comment (1) As we shall see in our chapter on women, women under Islam do not have equal rights: they are not free to marry whom they wish, the rights of divorce are not equal.
Article 18 "Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance".
Comments (1) Quite clearly under Islam, one does not have the right to change one's religion, if one is born into a Muslim family. Applying double standards, Muslims are quite happy to accept converts to their religion, but a Muslim may not convert to another religion, this would be apostasy which is punishable by death. Here is how the great commentator Baydawi (c.1291) sees the matter:
"Whosoever turns back from his belief, openly or secretly, take him and kill him wheresoever you find him, like any other infidel. Separate yourself from him altogether. Do not accept intercession in his regard.
Comment (2) Statistics on conversions from Islam to Christianity, and therefore apostasy, are hard to establish for obvious reasons. There is, however, a myth that Muslims are impossible to convert. On the contrary we do have enough evidence of literally thousands of Muslims abandoning Islam for Christ from the Middle Ages to Modern Times; the most spectacular cases being, amongst others, those of Moroccan and Tunisian princes in the 17th century, of the monk Constantin the African. Count Rudt -- Collenberg has found evidence at the Casa dei Catecumeni at Rome of 1087 conversions between 1614 and 1798.According to A.T. Willis and others between two or three million Muslims converted to Christianity after the massacres of the communists in Indonesia, in 1965, described earlier [chapter x] In France alone, in the 1990s, there are two or three hundred converts to Christianity from Islam, EACH YEAR. According to Ann Mayer, in Egypt conversions have been "occurring with enough frequency to anger Muslim clerics and to mobilize conservative Muslim opinion behind proposals to enact a law imposing the death penalty for apostasy" [Mayer177]. Ms. Mayer points out that, in the past, many women have been to tempted to convert from Islam to ameliorate their lot.
Comment (3) Those who convert to Christianity and choose to stay in the Muslim country do so at great personal danger. The convert has most of his rights denied him, identity papers are often refused him, so that he has difficulties leaving his country; his marriage is declared null and void, his children are taken away from him to be brought up by Muslims, and he forfeits his rights of inheritance. Often the family will take matters into their own hands and simply assassinate the apostate; the family are, of course, not punished. [Gaudeul]
Article 19 " Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinion without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers".
Comments (1) The rights enshrined in articles 18 and 19 have been consistently violated in Iran, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. In all three countries, the rights of their Bahai, Ahmadi and Shia minorities respectively have been denied. All three countries justify their actions by reference to Sharia. Christians in these countries are frequently arrested on charges of blasphemy and their rights denied.
Here is how Amnesty International describes the scene in Saudi Arabia: "Hundreds of Christians, including women and children have been arrested and detained over the past three years, most without charge or trial, solely for the peaceful expression of their religious beliefs. Scores have been tortured, some by flogging, while in detention... The possession of non_ Islamic religious objects -- including Bibles, rosary beads, crosses and pictures of Jesus Christ __ is prohibited and such items may be confiscated." AINO 62 JUly / Aug 1993
Similarly scores of Shia Muslims have been harassed, arrested, tortured and in some cases, beheaded. For example, on September 3, 1992 Sadiq Abdul Karim Malallah was publicly beheaded in al- Qatif after being convicted of apostasy and blasphemy. Sadiq, a Shia Muslim, was arrested in 1988 and charged with throwing stones at a police station, then of smuggling a Bible into the country. He was kept in solitary confinement, where he was tortured.
The situation of Ahmadis in Pakistan is somewhat similar. The Ahmadiyya movement was founded by Mirza Ghulam Ahmed (died 1908), who is regarded as a prophet by his followers Amnesty International [ASA / 33 / 15 / 91] summed up their situation in this manner:
"Ahmadis consider themselves to be Muslims but they are regarded by orthodox Muslims as heretical because they call the founder of the movement al-Masih [the Messiah]: this is taken to imply that Mohammad is not the final seal of the prophets as orthodox Islam holds, i.e. the prophet who carried the final message from God to humanity. According to Ahmadis their faith does not involve the denial of the Prophet Mohammad's status because Mirza Ghulam Ahmed did not claim to bring a new revelation of divine law which could add to, replace or supersede the Koran. Mirza Ghulam Ahmed considered himself a mahdi, a reappearance of the Prophet Mohammad, and thought it his task to revive Islam. As a result of these divergences, Ahmadis have been subjected to discrimination and persecution in some Islamic countries. In the mid- 1970s, the Saudi Arabia-based World Muslim League called on Muslim governments
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> Is Islam Compatible With Democracy and Human Rights?
> Forwarded message
> [ Tuesday, August 1, 2006
> Is Islam Compatible With Democracy and Human Rights?
> "Islam has never favoured democratic tendencies..." > - Hurgronje [277]
> "The Democratic system that is predominant in the world is not a suitable > system for the peoples of our region... The system of free elections is > not suitable to our country" > - King Fahd of Saudi Arabia
At 6 A.M. the shepherd girl wakes up, grabs a bite to eat, readies the sheep and heads for the pasture, together with her grandmother and her cousin. Two hours from Tel Aviv, 2,000 years from Tel Aviv, there are two tents in the middle of nowhere, made out of old bags of plaster, a family of horses, a makeshift sheep pen and a water tank. Every morning the three shepherds - the grandmother, Fadiya Anami, 60, the cousin, Salama Anami, 12, and Hanan Anami, also 12 - take the sheep out to the pasture, which is near the tent. Salama and Hanan no longer go to school in the unrecognized Bedouin village of the Abu Krinat tribe in the Dimona area, which is far from the pasture.
Last Wednesday the three shepherds set out as usual. In the winter months they take their animals farther north and west, near Kibbutz Tze'elim and the adjacent army training base, where the grass is greener. They say they have permission from the Agriculture Ministry. They pitch tents and remain until summer, when the grass withers. A man from the tribe brings supplies. They spend their days and nights between the pasture and the tent, without electricity or running water - without anything. A grandmother and two granddaughters, with a few herding dogs watching over them and the flock of 120 sheep.
Last Wednesday began like any other day. The sheep fed on the grass, now abundant, and the three shepherds sat a few hundred meters from each other. The field of blooming squill was crowded with flocks herded by Bedouin.
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On the ridge opposite stood, as usual, a row of camels. We saw them last Sunday when we visited the site with Abed Anami, Hanan's uncle and Salama's father. Abed Anami, 38, comes occasionally to visit his mother, daughter and niece. His brother, Yusuf, Hanan's father, also comes occasionally, as he did last Wednesday. As Yusuf made his way to the tents that day, a neighbor who passed him on the road flashed his lights, and called out: "Your daughter Hanan was wounded in the head."
The road to Tze'elim is littered with yellow warning signs mounted on concrete cubes - "Danger, firing zone" - in three languages, along with the terrifying image of a skull. But on the descent from the road after the Basor wadi there are no signs, only a warning to bicycle riders coming from the north about the road.
We followed the blue Subaru until it suddenly stopped. Abed emerged from the car, followed by "the old woman," as he called her, his mother, Fadiya, covered from head to toe. We followed her until she abruptly lay down on a mound of sand. Here, she said, in a whisper, Hanan fell.
It was about 3 P.M. last Wednesday, when Salama suddenly noticed small objects falling on the sand and kicking up little clouds of dust. Salama told her father later that she had no idea what they were; she had never seen a volley of live bullets. A few minutes later she saw her cousin Hanan slump to the ground, a hole in her head. In a panic she left everything and ran to the tent camp, about three kilometers away, to summon help.
In the meantime, other shepherds rushed to the wounded girl. She was unconscious. They put her into a van and drove quickly to the main road. Someone had called an ambulance, which picked up Hanan on the road. Yusuf reached the ambulance while the medics were still treating his daughter. She was seriously hurt. Yusuf says she looked "almost dead."
Fadiya sits on the mound of earth, which is strewn with sheep droppings, and is silent. A vulture circles overhead. Over the hill is the Tze'elim army base, hidden from view. Between the main road and the earth mound we couldn't find even one firing zone warning sign - either from the direction of the road or near the tents. All we saw was a van of the "Green Patrol" of the Israel Land Authority. Abed says that since the tragedy, the Green Patrol has been warning shepherds not to approach the firing area. Nevertheless, shepherds were there with their flocks on Sunday.
Under a spring-like sun, we followed the Subaru to Fadiya's two tents. The lambs bleat in their pen, the dogs bark at the strangers and the horses - mother, father, foal - are doing their thing. Suddenly a flock of sheep appears, their full udders swinging to and fro, as is the bell hung on the neck of one of them. The sheep make a mad rush for the pen; each knows its offspring. The lambs rush to suckle. Only the noise of an Israel Air Force plane overhead drowns out this desert cacophony, an earsplitting chorus of sheep and agitated dogs.
On the way back, we pass the orchards of Kibbutz Tze'elim - green, dense, cultivated, with a sophisticated irrigation system. "I blame the Israel Defense Forces for not warning us," says Abed.
Her swollen eyes shut, a kerchief on her head, her skin pockmarked with white spots - a beautiful girl who lies in the neurosurgical ward of Soroka Medical Center in Be'er Sheva, her parents by her side. Only now, four days after the incident, did Yusuf Anami let his wife, Maryam, visit their daughter. Before entering the room he cautioned her to be strong. The kerchief covers a scar that splits Hanan's skull, which is held together by metal pins. The couple have eight children; Hanan is the firstborn.
Yusuf quotes eyewitnesses as saying that a great many bullets were fired that day into the pasture area.
The IDF Spokesman's Unit issued the following response: "Within the framework of staff work that was done in regard to the firing zones, all the zones in Israel were mapped and it was decided which can be entered and which cannot. The Bedouin tribe to which the citizen belongs knows that entry to this zone is forbidden. Additionally, a few months ago, following a deliberate incursion into this zone, the Green Patrol removed the Bedouin from the area by force. Metal signs in three languages (English, Arabic and Hebrew), stating that entry is forbidden, have been placed at the entrance to the zone."
Not a word of regret. Nor did the IDF think to send a representative to visit the girl its soldiers wounded. A Bedouin activist, who asked not to be identified for fear of being harmed told us this week: "It is not by chance that no one from the army has come to visit her and support the family. Wouldn't a soldier who was wounded by accident be visited? There was a mistake, and the IDF says the girl is to blame - let's say - but not to visit her? That attests to a policy of abandonment. They are abandoning the Bedouin. Everything here is deliberate. If the girl had been in an educational framework, none of this would have happened. She dropped out of school and no one cares."
It's not hard to guess what would happen if a girl from nearby Kibbutz Tze'elim had been wounded by friendly fire. Says the father of "the citizen," as the IDF calls the girl: "No one told us not to go out with the sheep. There is no sign there. You didn't see any sign, so how could the girl have seen one?" Again, an examination by Haaretz this week found not one IDF warning sign.
Yusuf has not budged from his daughter's bed. Now both parents are in the room, staring at their sleeping daughter. When she arrived, her chances of survival were "less than 1 percent," says Dr. Vladimir Merkin, the neurosurgeon who operated on her. "The situation was critical, judging by all the parameters. Statistically, her prospects of making it were even worse. If a bullet passes one of the midlines of the skull, the chances are 1 percent, and in her the bullet passed two lines, meaning less than 1 percent."
The bullet entered Hanan's head from the direction of the ear and stopped at the frontal lobe, where is will probably remain for all time. Nevertheless, a miracle occurred and Hanan began to recover.
"To our surprise, she is conscious, and after two days she started to talk, even though the bullet passed through the part of the brain that is responsible for speech. She has a weakness on the right side of her body, but not paralysis," says the doctor, "and that is very surprising. Her eye was damaged, but it's too early to say for certain. The cognitive functions may have been damaged, but it is too early to say for certain."
Yes and you have no quarrel with the US? They dont have to, they use their army to shoot, run over and mistreat physically and sexually helpless children. What can a Palestinian do when the mighty money contributing yanks cannot protect their citizens.
> Is Islam Compatible With Democracy and Human Rights?
> Forwarded message
> [ Tuesday, August 1, 2006
> Is Islam Compatible With Democracy and Human Rights?
> "Islam has never favoured democratic tendencies..." > - Hurgronje [277]
> "The Democratic system that is predominant in the world is not a suitable > system for the peoples of our region... The system of free elections is > not suitable to our country" > - King Fahd of Saudi Arabia
At 6 A.M. the shepherd girl wakes up, grabs a bite to eat, readies the sheep and heads for the pasture, together with her grandmother and her cousin. Two hours from Tel Aviv, 2,000 years from Tel Aviv, there are two tents in the middle of nowhere, made out of old bags of plaster, a family of horses, a makeshift sheep pen and a water tank. Every morning the three shepherds - the grandmother, Fadiya Anami, 60, the cousin, Salama Anami, 12, and Hanan Anami, also 12 - take the sheep out to the pasture, which is near the tent. Salama and Hanan no longer go to school in the unrecognized Bedouin village of the Abu Krinat tribe in the Dimona area, which is far from the pasture.
Last Wednesday the three shepherds set out as usual. In the winter months they take their animals farther north and west, near Kibbutz Tze'elim and the adjacent army training base, where the grass is greener. They say they have permission from the Agriculture Ministry. They pitch tents and remain until summer, when the grass withers. A man from the tribe brings supplies. They spend their days and nights between the pasture and the tent, without electricity or running water - without anything. A grandmother and two granddaughters, with a few herding dogs watching over them and the flock of 120 sheep.
Last Wednesday began like any other day. The sheep fed on the grass, now abundant, and the three shepherds sat a few hundred meters from each other. The field of blooming squill was crowded with flocks herded by Bedouin.
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On the ridge opposite stood, as usual, a row of camels. We saw them last Sunday when we visited the site with Abed Anami, Hanan's uncle and Salama's father. Abed Anami, 38, comes occasionally to visit his mother, daughter and niece. His brother, Yusuf, Hanan's father, also comes occasionally, as he did last Wednesday. As Yusuf made his way to the tents that day, a neighbor who passed him on the road flashed his lights, and called out: "Your daughter Hanan was wounded in the head."
The road to Tze'elim is littered with yellow warning signs mounted on concrete cubes - "Danger, firing zone" - in three languages, along with the terrifying image of a skull. But on the descent from the road after the Basor wadi there are no signs, only a warning to bicycle riders coming from the north about the road.
We followed the blue Subaru until it suddenly stopped. Abed emerged from the car, followed by "the old woman," as he called her, his mother, Fadiya, covered from head to toe. We followed her until she abruptly lay down on a mound of sand. Here, she said, in a whisper, Hanan fell.
It was about 3 P.M. last Wednesday, when Salama suddenly noticed small objects falling on the sand and kicking up little clouds of dust. Salama told her father later that she had no idea what they were; she had never seen a volley of live bullets. A few minutes later she saw her cousin Hanan slump to the ground, a hole in her head. In a panic she left everything and ran to the tent camp, about three kilometers away, to summon help.
In the meantime, other shepherds rushed to the wounded girl. She was unconscious. They put her into a van and drove quickly to the main road. Someone had called an ambulance, which picked up Hanan on the road. Yusuf reached the ambulance while the medics were still treating his daughter. She was seriously hurt. Yusuf says she looked "almost dead."
Fadiya sits on the mound of earth, which is strewn with sheep droppings, and is silent. A vulture circles overhead. Over the hill is the Tze'elim army base, hidden from view. Between the main road and the earth mound we couldn't find even one firing zone warning sign - either from the direction of the road or near the tents. All we saw was a van of the "Green Patrol" of the Israel Land Authority. Abed says that since the tragedy, the Green Patrol has been warning shepherds not to approach the firing area. Nevertheless, shepherds were there with their flocks on Sunday.
Under a spring-like sun, we followed the Subaru to Fadiya's two tents. The lambs bleat in their pen, the dogs bark at the strangers and the horses - mother, father, foal - are doing their thing. Suddenly a flock of sheep appears, their full udders swinging to and fro, as is the bell hung on the neck of one of them. The sheep make a mad rush for the pen; each knows its offspring. The lambs rush to suckle. Only the noise of an Israel Air Force plane overhead drowns out this desert cacophony, an earsplitting chorus of sheep and agitated dogs.
On the way back, we pass the orchards of Kibbutz Tze'elim - green, dense, cultivated, with a sophisticated irrigation system. "I blame the Israel Defense Forces for not warning us," says Abed.
Her swollen eyes shut, a kerchief on her head, her skin pockmarked with white spots - a beautiful girl who lies in the neurosurgical ward of Soroka Medical Center in Be'er Sheva, her parents by her side. Only now, four days after the incident, did Yusuf Anami let his wife, Maryam, visit their daughter. Before entering the room he cautioned her to be strong. The kerchief covers a scar that splits Hanan's skull, which is held together by metal pins. The couple have eight children; Hanan is the firstborn.
Yusuf quotes eyewitnesses as saying that a great many bullets were fired that day into the pasture area.
The IDF Spokesman's Unit issued the following response: "Within the framework of staff work that was done in regard to the firing zones, all the zones in Israel were mapped and it was decided which can be entered and which cannot. The Bedouin tribe to which the citizen belongs knows that entry to this zone is forbidden. Additionally, a few months ago, following a deliberate incursion into this zone, the Green Patrol removed the Bedouin from the area by force. Metal signs in three languages (English, Arabic and Hebrew), stating that entry is forbidden, have been placed at the entrance to the zone."
Not a word of regret. Nor did the IDF think to send a representative to visit the girl its soldiers wounded. A Bedouin activist, who asked not to be identified for fear of being harmed told us this week: "It is not by chance that no one from the army has come to visit her and support the family. Wouldn't a soldier who was wounded by accident be visited? There was a mistake, and the IDF says the girl is to blame - let's say - but not to visit her? That attests to a policy of abandonment. They are abandoning the Bedouin. Everything here is deliberate. If the girl had been in an educational framework, none of this would have happened. She dropped out of school and no one cares."
It's not hard to guess what would happen if a girl from nearby Kibbutz Tze'elim had been wounded by friendly fire. Says the father of "the citizen," as the IDF calls the girl: "No one told us not to go out with the sheep. There is no sign there. You didn't see any sign, so how could the girl have seen one?" Again, an examination by Haaretz this week found not one IDF warning sign.
Yusuf has not budged from his daughter's bed. Now both parents are in the room, staring at their sleeping daughter. When she arrived, her chances of survival were "less than 1 percent," says Dr. Vladimir Merkin, the neurosurgeon who operated on her. "The situation was critical, judging by all the parameters. Statistically, her prospects of making it were even worse. If a bullet passes one of the midlines of the skull, the chances are 1 percent, and in her the bullet passed two lines, meaning less than 1 percent."
The bullet entered Hanan's head from the direction of the ear and stopped at the frontal lobe, where is will probably remain for all time. Nevertheless, a miracle occurred and Hanan began to recover.
"To our surprise, she is conscious, and after two days she started to talk, even though the bullet passed through the part of the brain that is responsible for speech. She has a weakness on the right side of her body, but not paralysis," says the doctor, "and that is very surprising. Her eye was damaged, but it's too early to say for certain. The cognitive functions may have been damaged, but it is too early to say for certain."
Yes and you have no quarrel with the US? They dont have to, they use their army to shoot, run over and mistreat physically and sexually helpless children. What can a Palestinian do when the mighty money contributing yanks cannot protect their citizens.
> At 6 A.M. the shepherd girl wakes up, grabs a bite to eat, > readies the sheep
and starts typing on the keyboard. The Shift key is depressed a great many times, often simultaneously with the delete and insert keys. By 7am the spam is ready to be sent. At 7:01am it is already being detected by spam filters and being dropped into bozo-bins all over the planet. Sadly, not one person read through the entire text.
> In article <1178024978.756306.8...@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, > kangaroois...@gmail.com says... > > UNTIL muslims unite and stand together as one they MUST accept they > > have NO RIGHTS AT ALL and will be raped murdered pillaged and > > plundered one country after another and jailed as terrorists every > > time they complain
> It seems to be the Muslims that are doing most of this murdering > pillaging and plundering.
The one thing about a reasonable civilized person talking to jewish/zionist/israeli persons, seem quite ordinary till the subject of jewish/zionist /israeli not only non jews, but each other. And the falsification of history goes on interminably.
Christian homes being knocked down??? The new homes were built by a group of limited income Palestinian Christian families who banded together as the Arab Orthodox Housing Project to build a new life. They obtained a 99-year lease from their Church, the Greek Orthodox Church, 22 years ago and then began the agonizing process of organizing and saving enough money to start construction.
"We were renters for 40 years," Dalal Awad, a mother of five told me. "We saved for 22 years and built this home with our neighbors. It cost $42,000. We built it with our hearts, our own labor. Now the Israelis want to kill our dream." http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2003/05/1607911.php
(Wanderer, Oct. 12, 1989, p. 7; National Review, March 16, 1992, p. S-5).
Israeli soldiers can beat up a priest on the West Bank, then shoot up his church during Mass, and only the Catholic press takes note...If Christians had done such a thing to a synagogue, anywhere, it would have been front-page news, everywhere. (Wanderer, Oct. 12, 1989, p. 7; National Review, March 16, 1992, p. S-5).
The Jews declared war against Germany On March 24, 1933, the Jewish World Congress, then under the leadership of Chaim Weizman, declared war on Germany on behalf of the Jews of the world. http://www.corax.org/revisionism/misc/encampment.html
Like the yanks who rounded up all Japs and Germans?
Immediately after Japan declared war on the United States of America, the order was issued to round up all Americans of Japanese ancestry and imprison them in large camps. http://www.corax.org/revisionism/misc/encampment.html
CPT Hebron Chronology February 1995 - September 2003 February-March 1995 Wendy Lehman and Kathleen Kern go on a fact finding tour of the West Bank, Gaza and Israel, talking to Palestinians, Israelis and internationals who are working for human rights and for peace. They make several trips down to Hebron. After they talk to the Public Relations Director of the Hebron municipality about CPT's work in Haiti, she tells them that such a team is exactly what Hebron needs. http://www.cpt.org/hebron/HebChronology.htm
Cheney repeated on Thursday on Rush Limbaugh his ridiculous assertion that Saddam Hussein was running Abu Musab al-Zarqawi as an al-Qaeda agent in Baghdad.
Someone should please tell Cheney that his own government captured documents in Iraq that show that Saddam's security forces were a) (http://www.juancole.com/2006/03/saddam-was-trying-to-capture-zarqawi....) AFRAID OF AL-QAEDA AND ZARQAWI AND B) WERE TRYING TO CAPTURE HIM ONCE THEY HEARD HE WAS IN IRAQ. THE PDF LINK IN MY POSTING ON THIS SHOWS THE APB IRAQ PUT OUT FOR Zarqawi and the wanted poster.
Money quotes: ' “If you’re going to walk around over there, I’d strongly suggest investing in Kevlar (body armor),” Christensen said. “There are definitely warmer spots of American compassion, but things are still very … touchy.”
Christensen said his team was discouraged from interacting with Iraqi citizens, because it was difficult to tell friend from foe.
“There would be 10- or 11- year-old kids that would give us a ‘thumbs up’ when we drove by them, and then throw grenades under our truck after we passed,” he said.
But Christensen said the worst violence was saved for Iraqi groups that assisted in the American reconstruction of the country, such as the Iraqi Security Forces.
“If there is one group of people that they hate more than us, it’s the Iraqi Army,” he said. “If they catch wind that one of our convoys is working with the Iraqi Army, they’ll fight to the death. You take a few minutes for yourself before you (leave the base) on missions like that.” '
He escaped and fled to Israel only to discover that the anti Semitism and bombings had been engineered by his fellow Zionists to dupe Iraqi Jews into going to Israel. An ancient community was deprived of its wealth and reduced to second-class citizen status in Israel, replacing Palestinian labor. See my "Zionists Double Crossed Iraqi Jews"
In a letter to the conference host, UNESCO Director-General Koichiro Matsuura, the protesters said the Wiesenthal center, "under the deceitful cover of the struggle against anti-Semitism, is on the contrary encouraging intolerance and racism in our societies."
Jon and David Kimche http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v13/v13n4p29_Weber.html The SS was particularly enthusiastic in its support for Zionism. An internal June 1934 SS position paper urged active and wide-ranging support for Zionism by the government and the Party as the best way to encourage emigration of Germany's Jews to Palestine.
The Jewish Agency delegation headed by Golda Meir (Meirson) ignored a German offer to allow Jews to emigrate to other countries for $250 a head, and the other Jewish groups made no effort to influence the United States and the 32 other countries attending the conference to allow immigration of German and Austrian Jews.
Now, in 51 Documents, Brenner has compiled a wide variety of letters, statements, articles, and judgements?some of which appeared in his earlier book?by a broad array of activists and authors, that documents Zionist cooperration with the Nazis.
On the face of it, the notion seems absurd. However, Brenner presents the case?made in many Zionists? own words?that the Nazi agenda of expelling the Jews from Germany fit nicely with the Zionist PLAN FOR ENTICING THOSE JEWS INTO SETTLING IN PALESTINE AND
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> On May 1, 11:09 pm, kangarooistan <kangaroois...@gmail.com> wrote: > > babies and raping their women and plundering one muslim country after > > another and torturing any muslim who tries to object after pretending > > they are terrorists and jail them for years for trying to defend > > their > > babies or innocent muslims
> Exactly which babies and innocent muslims were they trying to defend > on the 11/9/2001?
GOODNESS GET OUT MUCH OR YOU DONT READ THE NEWS?? YOU HAVE A HELL OF A LOT TO CATCH UP WITH.
Christian homes being knocked down??? The new homes were built by a group of limited income Palestinian Christian families who banded together as the Arab Orthodox Housing Project to build a new life. They obtained a 99-year lease from their Church, the Greek Orthodox Church, 22 years ago and then began the agonizing process of organizing and saving enough money to start construction.
"We were renters for 40 years," Dalal Awad, a mother of five told me. "We saved for 22 years and built this home with our neighbors. It cost $42,000. We built it with our hearts, our own labor. Now the Israelis want to kill our dream." http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2003/05/1607911.php
(Wanderer, Oct. 12, 1989, p. 7; National Review, March 16, 1992, p. S-5).
Israeli soldiers can beat up a priest on the West Bank, then shoot up his church during Mass, and only the Catholic press takes note...If Christians had done such a thing to a synagogue, anywhere, it would have been front-page news, everywhere. (Wanderer, Oct. 12, 1989, p. 7; National Review, March 16, 1992, p. S-5).
The Jews declared war against Germany On March 24, 1933, the Jewish World Congress, then under the leadership of Chaim Weizman, declared war on Germany on behalf of the Jews of the world. http://www.corax.org/revisionism/misc/encampment.html
Like the yanks who rounded up all Japs and Germans?
Immediately after Japan declared war on the United States of America, the order was issued to round up all Americans of Japanese ancestry and imprison them in large camps. http://www.corax.org/revisionism/misc/encampment.html
CPT Hebron Chronology February 1995 - September 2003 February-March 1995 Wendy Lehman and Kathleen Kern go on a fact finding tour of the West Bank, Gaza and Israel, talking to Palestinians, Israelis and internationals who are working for human rights and for peace. They make several trips down to Hebron. After they talk to the Public Relations Director of the Hebron municipality about CPT's work in Haiti, she tells them that such a team is exactly what Hebron needs. http://www.cpt.org/hebron/HebChronology.htm
Cheney repeated on Thursday on Rush Limbaugh his ridiculous assertion that Saddam Hussein was running Abu Musab al-Zarqawi as an al-Qaeda agent in Baghdad.
Someone should please tell Cheney that his own government captured documents in Iraq that show that Saddam's security forces were a) (http://www.juancole.com/2006/03/saddam-was-trying-to-capture-zarqawi....) AFRAID OF AL-QAEDA AND ZARQAWI AND B) WERE TRYING TO CAPTURE HIM ONCE THEY HEARD HE WAS IN IRAQ. THE PDF LINK IN MY POSTING ON THIS SHOWS THE APB IRAQ PUT OUT FOR Zarqawi and the wanted poster.
Money quotes: ' “If you’re going to walk around over there, I’d strongly suggest investing in Kevlar (body armor),” Christensen said. “There are definitely warmer spots of American compassion, but things are still very … touchy.”
Christensen said his team was discouraged from interacting with Iraqi citizens, because it was difficult to tell friend from foe.
“There would be 10- or 11- year-old kids that would give us a ‘thumbs up’ when we drove by them, and then throw grenades under our truck after we passed,” he said.
But Christensen said the worst violence was saved for Iraqi groups that assisted in the American reconstruction of the country, such as the Iraqi Security Forces.
“If there is one group of people that they hate more than us, it’s the Iraqi Army,” he said. “If they catch wind that one of our convoys is working with the Iraqi Army, they’ll fight to the death. You take a few minutes for yourself before you (leave the base) on missions like that.” '
He escaped and fled to Israel only to discover that the anti Semitism and bombings had been engineered by his fellow Zionists to dupe Iraqi Jews into going to Israel. An ancient community was deprived of its wealth and reduced to second-class citizen status in Israel, replacing Palestinian labor. See my "Zionists Double Crossed Iraqi Jews"
In a letter to the conference host, UNESCO Director-General Koichiro Matsuura, the protesters said the Wiesenthal center, "under the deceitful cover of the struggle against anti-Semitism, is on the contrary encouraging intolerance and racism in our societies."
Jon and David Kimche http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v13/v13n4p29_Weber.html The SS was particularly enthusiastic in its support for Zionism. An internal June 1934 SS position paper urged active and wide-ranging support for Zionism by the government and the Party as the best way to encourage emigration of Germany's Jews to Palestine.
The Jewish Agency delegation headed by Golda Meir (Meirson) ignored a German offer to allow Jews to emigrate to other countries for $250 a head, and the other Jewish groups made no effort to influence the United States and the 32 other countries attending the conference to allow immigration of German and Austrian Jews.
Now, in 51 Documents, Brenner has compiled a wide variety of letters, statements, articles, and judgements?some of which appeared in his earlier book?by a broad array of activists and authors, that documents Zionist cooperration with the Nazis.
On the face of it, the notion seems absurd. However, Brenner presents the case?made in many Zionists? own words?that the Nazi agenda of expelling the Jews from Germany fit nicely with the Zionist PLAN FOR ENTICING THOSE JEWS INTO SETTLING IN PALESTINE AND CREATING A NEW JEWISH NATION.
In addition to introductory and concluding chapters, the book is organized into five sections which lead the reader through early, pre-Zionist documents; pre-Holocaust
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> The Jews declared war against Germany > On March 24, 1933, the Jewish World Congress, then under the leadership of > Chaim Weizman, declared war on Germany on behalf of the Jews of the world. > http://www.corax.org/revisionism/misc/encampment.html<
Mein Kampf was Hitler's declaration of war on the Jews in 1925.
> Like the yanks who rounded up all Japs and Germans?
> Immediately after Japan declared war on the United States of America, the > order was issued to round up all Americans of Japanese ancestry and imprison > them in large camps. > http://www.corax.org/revisionism/misc/encampment.html<
They were not gassed or worked to death.
Published: 03/26/03, 1:29 AM Arab Chemical Warfare on Jews ? 1944 by Benyamin Korn
As we contemplate the potential horrors of a chemical weapons attack on a Jewish target in 2003, it is also worth contemplating the lessons of the first attempt by Arab leaders to unleash chemical warfare against Jews ? back in 1944.
As we contemplate the potential horrors of a chemical weapons attack on a Jewish target in 2003, it is also worth contemplating the lessons of the first attempt by Arab leaders to unleash chemical warfare against Jews ? back in 1944.
The 1944 plan was the brainchild of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin el-Husseini, the political leader and senior Islamic religious authority of the Palestinian Arabs.
During the 1920s and 1930s, the Mufti instigated mass Arab violence against the Jews and British authorities in British Mandatory Palestine. Later, he fled to Baghdad, where, in 1941, he helped engineer a short-lived pro-Nazi coup. Then it was on to Rome, where Husseini was warmly welcomed by Mussolini, and finally Berlin, where he and his entourage spent the remainder of the war actively collaborating with the Nazis.
From Berlin, the Mufti made repeated Arabic-language radio broadcasts to the Middle East, brimming with hatred of Jews and appeals to the Arab masses to support Hitler. The Islamic cleric also assisted in the development of an Arab Legion of the German army, recruited Soviet Muslims to fight alongside the Nazis, and organized a special all-Muslim division of the SS, which committed so many atrocities in Yugoslavia that 38 of its officers were later tried as war criminals. As for the annihilation of European Jewry, the Mufti and his staff met with Adolf Eichmann and were briefed by senior German officials on the genocide process, of which he heartily approved. In 1943, the Mufti's pressure succeeded in scuttling a proposed prisoner exchange that would have saved 4,000 Jewish refugee children. The children were instead sent to Auschwitz.
Sabotage squads organized by the Mufti were parachuted behind Allied lines both in Europe and the Middle East. In 1944, one such squad parachuted into Mandatory Palestine. The details of their mission were first revealed in the 1983 book The Quest for the Red Prince, by Michael Bar-Zohar, a biographer of Ben-Gurion and Labor party Knesset member, and Eitan Haber, a journalist who became Yitzhak Rabin's closest aide and speech-writer when Rabin became prime minister.
According to Bar-Zohar and Haber, the five parachutists were armed with maps of Tel Aviv, canisters of "a fine white powder," and instructions from the Mufti to dump the German-made chemicals into the Tel Aviv water system. The British policemen who discovered the men, hiding in a cave in Jericho, sent the mysterious substance to a laboratory for analysis. "I remember how amazed we all were," district police commander Fayiz Bey Idrissi later recalled, "The laboratory report stated that each container held enough poison to kill 25,000 people, and there were at least ten containers."
The Mufti's attempt to unleash mass destruction through chemical warfare took place long before there were any conflicts over borders, territories, settlements, or refugees. The State of Israel did not yet even exist. The mere prospect that a Jewish state might be created in some small part of Mandatory Palestine sufficed to inspire attempted genocide.
Sadly, there are no signs that the Palestinian Arab community has come to grips with this black chapter in its history. Yasser Arafat calls the Mufti "our hero." Prof. Adnan Musallem of Bethlehem University skeptically characterizes the Mufti's activity as "so-called Palestinian contacts with Germany during World War II." Arab journalists from eastern Jerusalem who toured the Yad Vashem Holocaust museum in 1995 objected to the museum's exhibit documenting the Mufti's alliance with Hitler.
Recently, a group of Israeli Arabs announced plans to visit Auschwitz. It remains to be seen whether the visit will include acknowledgment and repudiation of the Mufti's role in having 4,000 Jewish children shipped to Auschwitz and his plan for the mass murder of Palestinian Jewry. Such a repudiation would constitute a welcome departure from standard Arab commentary on the Holocaust, not to mention the present danger of chemical warfare against Jews in Israel and the Diaspora. -------------------------------------------------------- Benyamin Korn is former executive editor of the Jewish Exponent of Philadelphia. ************ Spend Passover with Arutz Sheva at a resort in Jerusalem, Tel Aviv or Kfar Pines (near Hadera). Click here for info. 22 Adar Bet 5763 / 26 March 03
>> The Jews declared war against Germany >> On March 24, 1933, the Jewish World Congress, then under the leadership >> of >> Chaim Weizman, declared war on Germany on behalf of the Jews of the >> world. >> http://www.corax.org/revisionism/misc/encampment.html<
> Mein Kampf was Hitler's declaration of war on the Jews in 1925.
>>> The Jews declared war against Germany >>> On March 24, 1933, the Jewish World Congress, then under the leadership >>> of >>> Chaim Weizman, declared war on Germany on behalf of the Jews of the >>> world. >>> http://www.corax.org/revisionism/misc/encampment.html<
>> Mein Kampf was Hitler's declaration of war on the Jews in 1925.
Well, in the early days the rich Jew bankers in America financed Hitler as the only person who could go up against communism. Hitler used to call communists as "Jews".
The phrase "the Jewish problem" meant communism.
The phrase "the final solution" meant invading the Soviet Union to stamp out the growing threat of communism, which was about to take over all of Europe.
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